Alright, here we go. It’s late but it’s still here and that’s what counts, eh? The good news is that all of the math is already done for POW so that’ll go up tomorrow morning on schedule.
Central Washington 93 vs. MN-Mankato 104
The Wildcats got outside themselves =( It was totally within their range and they could have had it and they panicked and it didn’t happen, but we’re still so proud of them. As noted yesterday: It wouldn’t surprise us if Mankato is a very, very good team.
Wildcat highlights: Naim Ladd had 18 points; Dom Hunter had 27 points; Terry Dawn had six boards; Jawan Stepney had 15 points and five boards; and off the bench Sage Woodruff had five boards.
Simon Fraser 73, Lindenwood 72
SFU vs. Lindenwood round two and SFU squeaked out another one. Nicely done Clan. Plenty of good numbers to go around, so we’ll jump right in.
Clan highlights: Iziah Sherman-Newsome had eight boards and 10 points; Graham Miller had 9 points and five boards; Michael Provenzano had another good game with 14 points and five boards, along with five fouls; JJ Pankratz had 9 points and five boards; and Tyrell Lewin had 14 points and six boards. Off the bench Andrew Williamson had 9 points; and Hidde Vos had eight points.
Western Washington 94, Holy Names 68
Can’t spell ‘slaughter’ without ‘laughter’? The numbers aren’t as good as they could be, but there are a lot of good ones and we’re very satisfied with WWU.
Vikings highlights: Taylor Stafford had 17 points and 11 boards; Trey Drechsel had 14 points and five boards; Logan Schilder had 10 points, seven boards, and five blocks -good to see the 7’0er getting aclimated; Daulton Hommes had 13 points and six boards; and Jeffrey Parker had a full house with 24 points and seven rebounds, among other stats. Off the bench Trevor Jasinsky had seven points.
Seattle Pacific 72 vs. Dixie State 74 in OT
Dixie State won. We’re not very happy. But it does create a lot parity because it wasn’t a good loss. Dixie State is yet to get a good win. They have good losses, but not any good wins, and a brand new SPU team that doesn’t return anything does not count as a quality win. But looking at the numbers SPU decided they didn’t give a crap about rebounding, so… They get what they get.
Falcon highlights: Coleman Wooten played 40 minutes and had eight rebounds; Sam Simpson had six boards; and Joe Rasmussen had five fouls. Off the bench Sharif Khan had 10 points; and Tony Miller had 21 points and seven boards.
We consider this game to be a complete mess and with a slightly more experienced team the Falcons would have had it, but the fact is they don’t have that experience this year and they can’t get away half-trying like they have in the past. Hopefully they learned something -if they didn’t, their SoCal games this coming week are going to be felt widely and painfully on a conference level.
Alaska-Fairbanks 71 vs. BYU-Hawaii 68
Praise Nooks. They got it done. It was desperate considering BYU-H only used six players (essentially five) but it’s still a ‘W.’
Nanook highlights: Nahjee Matlock had 13 points and five assists; Bangaly Kaba had 14 points and seven boards; LaDonavan Wilder had seven boards; Zach Pederson had 15 points and six boards; Brandon Davis had 12 points, five boards, six assists, five steals, a block, four fouls, and zero turnovers in a perfect full house. Off the bench Michael Kluting had eight points and six boards.
Alaska-Anchorage 73, Cal State LA 68
Thank God, the Seawolves got out of this. Suki was more off on free throws than we’re used to seeing, so that was interesting. Corey Hammell finally had a Corey Hammell game, so that was good. Mixed bag, but what can we say? The Seawolves got it done and we are incredibly relieved.
Seawolves highlights: Suki Wiggs had 27 points and six boards; Corey Hammell had 12 points and 11 boards; and Connor Devine had 12 points and six boards. No real bench play, which is mildly concerning but Sjur Berg saw almost no minutes, so… Maybe means nothing.
CU-Portland 62, San Francisco State 86
The Gators were in ‘steamroll’ mode. That’s okay. We’re still proud of the Cavs for the progress they’re clearly making. We think they’re going to make some noise in conference -Christopher Edward, among others, is for real.
Cavalier highlights: Drew Martin had 14 points; Christopher Edward had a double-double with 10 boards and 10 points; off the bench Davis Nuaimi had five assists; and Taylor Harris had 11 points.
Saint Martin’s 75, San Bernardino State 80
The Saints ALMOST got the win but couldn’t pull it off likely due to a slow 7’0er. He goes in for the tip and nothing else. We like Fred a lot, but… Winning the tip doesn’t matter if he can’t even be counted on to grab one measly board. Naim Ladd is 5’7 and had seven the other night, so… Get with it Fred. You’ve got five fouls. Use them.
Saints highlights: Cole Preston had five boards and 17 points; Rhett Baerlocher had seven boards; Tyler Copp bounced back and had 16 points; Brandon Kenilvort had five boards; and off the bench Trey Ingram had 15 points.
MSU-Billings 50 vs. Cal State East Bay 54
Close and hard fought game but ultimately MSUB couldn’t pull it out. Quite honestly it bugs us because MSUB returns so much, so… Yellowjackets: What are you doing? We know East Bay’s place in conference tends to make them look worse than they are (truly an any given night team) but you were at home and have so many returners. Hmmm. We expect more of you Yellowjackets. Next week, perhaps.
Yellowjacket highlights: PRESTON BEVERLY had a huge game wiht 14 points and 25 points on good shooting; and Christian Evans had five boards.
To be fair, some of the lacking in highlights is because it was a low-scoring game, but… Shooting numbers were also bad.
Western Oregon 63 vs. UC San Diego 75
The Tritons read Western Oregon like a book. They came in apparently very prepared and essentially just shut the Wolves down completely. WOU still had few turnovers, so UCSD could have maybe forced them better, but… This was revenge for the Sweet 16 game and they got it.
Wolves highlights: Ali Faruq-Bey had six boards; and off the bench Demtrius Trammell had 11 points; while Yanick Kulich had 19 points and seven boards; and Malik Leaks had seven points.
Yup. That minimal. Looking forward to the Wolves bouncing back after a painful weekend.
Northwest Nazarene 84 vs. Colorado Christian 103
Weeee. Eeeee. Okay, honestly not surprising because Colorado Christian is often good, as the RMAC is usually really good. This is a quality loss if we’ve ever seen it.
Crusader highlights: Bouna N’Diaye had six boards; Jalen Shepard had nine assists and 16 points, whoa; Kaileb Rodriguez had 25 points and 12 boards for the double-double; Maurice Jones had 13 points and five fouls. Off the bench Pol Olivier had six points.
Overall a mis-mash of a weekend. We’re not as concerned as we expected ourselves to be, mostly because it does look like so much parity across the region that we feel like if a few teams clamp down and others buck up, things’ll be just fine.
POW noms up tomorrow at 10am, with the announcement at 11.
Yup, it’s going to be a back-to-back post because as much as we love the GNAC -Husky and Seahawks football took priority. And sleep. Sleep took priority. What’s interesting is we were so busy throwing-up the preview (our fingers were barfing) that we didn’t look at ANY of Friday’s numbers yesterday. Nuts. And now not any of Saturday’s numbers. It’s all a surprise o.O
Simon Fraser 81, Lindenwood 73
We weren’t even aware Lindenwood was a D2 school; we assumed it was a school on the prairies of Canada. As it turns out it is D2, so good on the Clan for scheduling them. Yayyy D2 opponents.
Clan highlights: Graham Miller was 7-7 from the line and finished with 18 points and four fouls; Michael Provenzano had seven boards, five assists, and finished with 18 points and four fouls; JJ Pankratz was back in a big way, grabbing nine boards, four blocks, and dropping 24 points while staying out of foul trouble. Off the bench Kedar Wright went 7-9 from the line and finished with 11 points in the Clan’s victory.
Dear President Donald Trump,
Thank-you for making it okay for us to say ‘Go Clan!’ and talk positively about them without being concerned about ending up on a list. Heck, if we’re not careful with all this talk of “Go Clan!” we could ended up nominated for a cabinet position.
The GNAC Men’s Basketblog
Central Washington 99, Dixie State 95 in OT
Yeaaah Wildcats! We is so proud of you. Winning in OT. Yes, it’s for all intents and purposes a home game, but any win against the region is a win we will take. And there were TONS of good numbers, so let’s get started…
Wildcat highlights: NAIM LADD had SEVEN rebounds, two assists, ZERO turnovers, and 25 points; DOM HUNTER had a whopping 33 points while going 10/11 from the line and being good from the field; Jerome Bryant did the rare thing of confusing us with his lack of shooting; he went 1-3 and then made 9-11 from the line and grabbed five boards and had five fouls. Rarely do we think ‘wow, he could have kept shooting’ but this guy did and at the same time we’re excited for him because it shows the valuable trait of knowing his role and doing a darn good job at it. Fouling and drawing fouls? Um, yeah.
Full disclaimer: Power forward is our favorite position by and far, so that position does tend to get a good bit of bias around here.
Seattle Pacific 69, MN-Makato 78
While it’s a good win for MN-Mankato, we’re not convinced it’s a bad loss for SPU because we’d so much rather lose an out-of-region game than an in-region, and Mankato could turn out to be very good; it’s too early in the season to know at this point. We’ll consider it a good learning experience, hopefully.
Falcon highlights: COLEMAN WOOTEN had 16 boards and 24 points on solid shooting; Sam Simpson had eight boards and four assists; Will Parker had five fouls; and Joe Rasmussen had five boards and nine points. Off the bench Sharif Khan had 14 points; and Tony Miller had seven boards.
Alaska-Fairbanks 68, Cal State LA 74
Huge win for the CCAA as a whole. We talk about it all the time, but: Any win in Alaska is a good win because it’s so hard to play up there. We knew CSULA was going to be improved this year, it was just a matter of time.
Nanook highlights: Nahjee Matlock had five boards and five assists; Bangaly had 10 boards and nine points; LaDonavan Wilder had five boards; and Brandon Davis had 16 points and five assists. Off the bench Reece Robinson had six points and four boards; and Michael Kluting had 10 points.
CU-Portland 57, UC San Diego 66
Way closer than anticipated. Yes, it was essentially a home game, but it’s still what we should all consider a very quality loss for the Cavalier program because we love the Cavs and anticipated a blowout so what was everyone else thinking? Yeah. It’s good.
Cavalier highlights: Drew Martin had 15 points, Latrell Wilson had five boards; Christopher Edward had a huge game with 10 points and eight boards; and off the bench Davis Nuami had four boards and three assists.
The Tritons play mad D so the numbers are less than they usually would have been for how close it was.
Alaska-Anchorage 75, BYU-Hawaii 50
Confirmed: BYU-H good at home and bad on the road. At least so far. Admittedly it’s hard to play at UAA, but in that we also need to say that: UAA has a huge homecourt advantage. Good for them. Did what needed to be done and there are lots of good numbers.
Seawolf highlights: Suki had 21 points, seven boards, and three assists; Corey Hammell had a double-double with 12 boards and 10 points; and Connor Devine had 17 points and eight boards on good shooting. Off the bench Augustus Simmers had 10 points; Damien Fulp had 10 points while perfect from the line; nad Sjur Berg had five boards.
Western Oregon 93 vs. San Fran State 99 in 3OT
Oh dear. We’d say this game was a mess on both sides but it wasn’t. San Fran State played within themselves and used it to win the game in a hard place to play. They had surprisingly few bad numbers for the fact that the game went to 3OT. Not the case with the Wolves. Still, as bad as the numbers were they stayed in it.
Wolves highlights: Bryan Berg had 15 points and five boards; Tanner Omlid had eight boards, seven assists, four steals, two blocks, and assorted other stuff while securing a full house; Ali Faruq-Bey had eight boards; Buster Souza had a “break-out” game with seven boards and fourteen points with the only passable shooting on the Wolves. Off the bench Yanick Kulich had seven boards; and Malik Leaks had six boards and nine points -guess if you can survive that surname in elementary school, you can do anything.
Saint Martin’s 60 @ Sonoma State 77
Oh dear. Growing pains. It’s okay Saints, this is going to happen. Quality loss? Perhaps. At least Tyler Copp played moderately well, because outside of him there really are very few highlights.
Saints highlights: Tyler Copp had four boards, four assists, zero turnovers, and 20 points; Brandon Kenilvort had 17 points; and off the bench Rohjhae Colbert had five boards.
Overall an interesting day for the GNAC and West Region as a whole. Not bad nor good; this day was neutral all the way around, which is interesting of itself. We honestly haven’t looked at Saturday’s results except for CWU (they keep playing early so we keep seeing those results) and so… We’ll see in a little bit.
Congrats and good effort to all involved, GNAC or otherwise.
UAF 73 @ BYU-H 64
It was a hairy game for a while, but ultimately the Nooks pulled it through and got one of those ever-so-coveted ROAD WINS. We haven’t done our annual singalong of “The Selection Comm is Coming to Town” yet, but that’s a big one. Get those road wins and the Nooks did just that, especially coming back from a deficit on the road and after two losses in a row -that’s a huge deal. Very good gumption, clearly learning from the experiences. Proud of you, UAF: you helped our entire conference with this win.
Nook highlights: LaDonavan Wilder had 15 points and six boards; Brandon Davis had 14 points, four boards, three assists, and four steals -very balanced; and Zach Pederson had eight boards. Off the bench, Trent Molesworth had eight points; and Brandon Rowden had six points. Overall a very nice rebounding effort by the entire team.
Up next for the Nooks is CSULA in the Seawolf Jamboree.
SMU 97 vs. Hilo 89
Ahahahaha. This was a beautiful mess of a game for the Saints -Hilo played well, especially on the road for a week. We monitored it, but didn’t watch it. Initially SMU went up and we were like “uh huh” and then Hilo came back and we were like “oh dear” and then Hilo was leading for a while and we were like “oh OH dear,” before SMU was like “no, no, no,” and then they got apathetic again and Hilo came back again. It was honestly exactly what we expected out of both teams because SMU was coming off a big “road” OT win against Point Loma, and Hilo was coming off of a close loss to SPU. Hilo wanted to rebound, SMU was going “we’re at home, we just beat a well-coached team, this is no big deal.” Um, no. Every west region game is a big deal, get it through your heads all of y’all.
Saints highlights: Cole Preston had an iffy game overall but still made 8-12 from the line; Tyler Copp continues to be amazing, playing 38 minutes, scoring 24 points, grabbing six boards, and getting the full five fouls; Fred Jorg continues to win the tip-off. Off the bench Trey Ingram had a HUUUGE game (we’ve missed him) with 19 points, seven assists, and just ONE turnover; Brandon Kenilvort had 18 points; and Rohjae Colbert had seven points.
Very balanced scoring, pretty decent shooting, very relieved they pulled this game out. The Saints next opponent is Sonoma State.
Discussions post’ll go up tomorrow and then game previews on Friday.
Just the conversation you want to have with relatives over Christmas! <— that’s sarcasm, but not for the reason you think.
Some people think religion and politics are off limits; we’re of the opinion that those are just fine, that’s all fun and games, but sports no, no way. We go from zero to cursing every other word in about 0.2 seconds flat and we cannot let things go. Like if you have a different opinion: you’re wrong, you don’t know what you’re talking about, we do know what we’re talking about, and you can go to H-E-double-hockey-sticks with your lack of citations -because yes: We cite what we’re saying in regard to sports.
Now for the serious business that is discussing the transitive property of college basketball.
Reminder of the transitive property:
A > B
B > C
A > C
In words: A is greater than B, B is greater than C, thus A is greater than C.
In the GNAC world:
Seattle Pacific beat Western Washington by 19.
Western Washington beat Simon Fraser by 37.
Thus: Seattle Pacific “should” beat Simon Fraser by 56. Except the reality was that Seattle Pacific “merely” beat Simon Fraser by 34. Except of course: College basketball is far more nuanced than that and will vary on any given night. Still, why is it something worth talking about? Because Western Washington is likely thinking “Oh, everything’s fine, we beat SFU by 37, we got Evan Scholten back, everything’s good.”
But hold on, wait a minute, put a little thought into it.
Max Barkeley scored 18 points and had a steal during the SPU game. He didn’t play at all during the WWU game. That gets you to a 52 point win. The difference between the benches of SPU and WWU are also very different. WWU has seven guys worthy of starting, plus a heck of a sixth/eighth man in Brett Kingma. SPU has four guys worthy of starting and no sixth man. Is that the Vikings problem? Absolutely not. We’ve been telling SPU quality over quantity for years, and it worked out just fine for them last year.
Good teams still win when critical guys go down. UCSD just had a game where every starter fouled out and they actually played four on five with guys that typically didn’t see major minutes in the critical final minutes against San Marcos, and yet they still pulled it out.
With SPU and WWU -both faced BYU-H, SPU was missing starters Brendan Carroll and Mitch Penner while WWU was missing bench player Evan Scholten, while having a much stronger bench generally considered. Difference is, SPU won by 24 meanwhile WWU lost by 13.
Now, generally speaking we think the transitive property works within reason. Is it going to be exact? No. Is it going to be perfect? Absolutely not. There are so many variables that it gets ridiculous and then becomes impressive that generally it does work out fairly well, and then you get to the other side and go “of course this works” before circling back to the idea that there’s no way it can work. Kind of like the universe. You start accepting it and then realize it’s impossible and then go back to the fact that it’s the only reality you know, then you start contemplating that it’s the only reality you know and you end up thinking it’s impossible again.
Glad we can have these existentialist conversations.
Anyway: Transitive property of college basketball. Interesting, extrapolatable* data to a degree, but ultimately remember that there are a lot of variables and so when all else fails: look at the numbers, integrate yourself with the numbers, feel the calculus of the universe, and then know that it’s just basketball and it’s great but no one’s gonna die if your calculus is wrong in this particular instance.
This post feels like a disappointment. Shenanigans at some point tomorrow.
For a lot of these guys it’s the last game they’ll play before Thanksgiving and while the vast majority won’t get to go home… All have more than earned the right to celebrate. Congrats to Saint Martin’s and Northwest Nazarene for getting it done!! Hope you guys enjoyed the very well deserved wins.
Central Washington 95, BYU Hawaii 86
We’re not even sure what to say other than: We called it. Lots of good numbers. Pretty much the only bad number came via Naim Ladd and his 2-9 shooting. Other than that, great and fairly complete performance by the Wildcats, so good day.
Highlights: Joey Roppo finished with 20 points, going 6-9 on threes; Gary Jacobs grabbed seven boards, five assists, three steals, and two fouls on his way to 22 points; Joe Stroud added six boards and 13 points along with four fouls; Devin Matthews went 8-10 from the line and finished with 16 points. Good team effort from the Wildcats, getting these two wins are big, especially because it’s literally the only non-conference they play, so really it helps all GNAC teams in some minimal way.
MSU-Billings 82, Black Hills State 80
No clue what to say about this game. Black Hills went 10-19 last year with MSUB killing them 79-61, so going off of that this win is happy but still concerning. Are the MSUB Yellowjackets out of the woods yet? No. The monsters are not yet trees. They’re still monsters and MSUB scheduled themselves very well. Part of that could be teams overlooking them thinking “yeah, we’ll schedule MSUB” and then MSUB thinking of the overlook factor. We’re not sure.
The Jackets haven’t had Momir Gataric, so that could also be playing a big role because he was huge at the end of last year.
Highlights: Marc Matthews had 24 points, six boards, and two steals but all was negated by 5 turnovers; Emmanuel Johnson had 11 points; Jace Anderson had 13 points and four assists; Christian Evans had 17 points while playing a whopping 37 minutes. Off the bench Jordan Perry had 11 points.
Northwest Nazarene 80, CSU-Los Angeles 75
The Crusaders overcame some disastrously selfish shooting and nasty turnovers to ultimately win the game. CSULA is generally speaking not a good team, so we’ll cover this in the discussions post this week, but for conference basement dwellers you basically have two options: Schedule good teams and hope you get good transfers and upset them, or schedule similarly placed teams and hope that it gets you experience and leads you to upsetting conference teams. This is the latter of those two options, we’ll see if it pays off.
Highlights: Joel Devastey had five boards; Bouna N’Diaye had 12 points; Gonzo Santana had four assists; Detwon Rogers had seven boards and 15 points; Mike Wright had 28 points and eight assists with just two turnovers. Off the bench Pol Olivier had three assists; and Kyle Bailey had five boards and eight points.
Seattle Pacific 86, Hawaii Hilo 73
Score ultimately ended up closer than what the game was. Had the huge potential for a let-down and they overcame it. They had Mitch Penner back, but still no Brendan Carroll. The Falcons went 2-2 on this weekend and hopefully it helped prepare them for next weekend because their schedule is brutal from here on out.
Highlights: BRYCE LEAVITT had a full house on good to great shooting finishing with 21 points, four assists, eight rebounds, a block, a steal, and two fouls; Garrett Swanson had seven boards, four fouls, and 16 points; Will Parker had two assists and three steals. Off the bench Mitch Penner had 17 points on 9-11 free throw shooting. Again, congrats to the Falcons for avoiding the let down.
CSU-Dominguez Hills 81, Alaska-Anchorage 78
There were a number of good things about this game and a number of bad things. The bad things largely fell into the fact that both Suki and Diante weren’t shooting well and ultimately the Seawolves (still without Brian McGill) couldn’t overcome it. The good was that there were few turnovers. Another bad thing was that there was very little defense.
Highlights: Corey Hammell had a double double with 10 boards and 17 points; Suki had nine assists and six boards while playing 40 minutes and shooting terribly; Spencer Svejcar had five boards, four assists, and 20 points. Off the bench Christian Leckband had five points and four boards, along with three blocks. The Seawolves were super close to getting it done and ultimately just couldn’t, but hopefully a good learning loss.
Colorado Christian 89, Simon Fraser 79
Another day, another learning experience. Some positively horrifying turnover issues. There were still plenty of good moments though and again: non conference is all about building experience. Colorado Christian is a good RMAC team.
Highlights: Max Barkeley had 22 points and just ONE turnover; Michael Harper had a full house including 15 points, but none of it really matters because he had seven turnovers; JJ Pankratz also had a full house including eight boards, eight points, three assists, and four blocks. Off the bench Oshea Gairey had fourteen points, although four turnovers. Pretty much it. Defense would have been nice. The good news is SFU is making progress, so… more to come.
Saint Martin’s 90, CSU-Monterey Bay 85
Good win for the Saints, super proud of them. Learning how to win is part of the process and they’re in the midst of a massive rebuild, so really good to see. Lots of super good numbers, but not very much defense. Still, a win is a win, and… Shooting 90% as a team on free throws can make us forgive you for a lot.
Highlights: Cole Preston played a whopping 40 minutes and finished with 19 points and five assists; Tyler Copp had 14 points; Jordan Kitchen had a full house including 10 points and two blocks in just 23 minutes;. Off the bench Rhett Baerlocher added four boards and four points.
Overall, a pretty good day for the GNAC. With SFU and UAA -all we ask is that you learned a lot from your losses. Granted, we also ask that of the winning teams -there’s always TONS of room for improvement. So glad to finally have Andy Avgi back, other players we hope to see again soon include: Almir Hadzisehovic, Brian McGill, Brendan Carroll, Trey Ingram, and
Stay warm and hydrated. Player of the week nominations will be up tomorrow at 10am with the winner up at 11.
Game previews for this weekend in regard to D2 action:
- BYU-H vs. CWU & SPU = good match-ups, if not rough. As covered: BYU-H just beat WWU, with a final score of 93-80.
- Hawaii Hilo vs. CWU & SPU = a winnable game for both GNAC teams; Hawaii Hilo tends to sit mid-pack in the Pac-West, so challenging but not breaking. Definitely not a cupcake, but there should be a win for both teams provided they take what’s being offered.
- Simon Fraser vs. Colorado Christian x2; Colorado Christian plays in the always strong RMAC and finished with an 11-11 conference record last year, so not a great team but definitely a good team and should be a good challenge for the Clan.
- WOU & SMU vs. CSU-Monterey Bay. Monterey Bay is perennially in the bottom quarter of the CCAA so WOU should take care of them without issue, and SMU should have the opportunity to win.
- UAA & UAF vs. CSU Dominguez Hills. Dominguez Hills is the SFU of the CCAA. We want to see Suki take fewer shots and for the Seawolves to really focus on distributing and taking good shots rather than just pseudo-available ones. In regard to UAF, we want to see Joe Slocum finally re-acclimate and do what we know he’s capable of.
- MSUB vs. Black Hills State; annual battle of the Yellowjackets. MSUB just “beat” NAIA Rocky Mountain two nights ago, but… Honestly, they didn’t win; Rocky Mountain simply lost. Games like that no one actually wins. And we say this whilst attending an NAIA school.
- WWU vs. Flagler; Flagler is a D2 school in the Peach Belt Conference (home of UNC Pembroke & University of South Carolina Aiken, notably). The Saints of Flagler finished 10-16 last year and have no one on their current roster from the pacific northwest, so… Apparently they just need their fix of rain, wind, and cold but without snow.
Pretty ho-hum weekend of basketball overall with the exception of the BYU-H games. Colorado Christian we’re curious about. GNAC teams have felt just off this year, we feel like we really haven’t started watching GNAC basketball yet because the fundamentals that we’re used to seeing (with the exception of UAF) haven’t been on display, so hopefully this weekend is the one that it clicks.
BYU-H 93, WWU 80.
We’re really not sure what to say, but here are a few observations:
-WWU got mugged, straight up. BYU-H has apparently learned the ways of BYU; really dirty game.
-That being said: The refs really didn’t matter. It’s a part of every team’s MO that they need to be able to overcome poor reffing and calls not going their way. WWU had plenty of opportunities to win and they didn’t. They were playing at home. They should have won this game.
-The Vikings have to learn to rebound. Another positively atrocious game on that front. We have no idea what’s wrong with Mac Johnson but something’s gotta change because his play is not where it should be. We had really high hopes for him coming into this year and the Mac we saw at the end of last season is nowhere to be found.
-Kyle Impero had another really good game and was making some very smart plays. Aside from that… Meh. Not happy with the numbers at all.
Really not sure about the conference implications.
From BYU-H’s perspective, they got the win against the “A” team and so the “B” and “C” teams look that much more doable. From Seattle Pacific and Central Washington’s perspective this should be fuel for the fire. WWU tends to be the standard and so particularly for SPU the potential win is all the more important. We’re 50/50; part of us is like “SPU can do this!” and part of us is like “The falcons are screwed,” so going neutral; hoping for the best, and mentally preparing for the worst. From the CWU perspective, this seems like a recipe for a Wildcat win, and honestly: it very well might be.
Game previews for this weekend’ll be up tomorrow at 10am. Drink your water, get good sleep, and remember: The Committee is watching.
BYU-Hawaii plays three games against three GNAC schools in four days. They face Western Washington on Wednesday, Seattle Pacific on Friday, and Central Washington on Saturday. We commend that schedule. It essentially is an “A-B-C” on the mainland so-to-speak. From their perspective a win at WWU would be huge, a win at SPU should be doable (and they’ll want blood because SPU bounced them out of the NCAA tournament), and a win against CWU should be probable provided they don’t collapse.
That’s us attempting to give you the Seasider perspective. From our GNAC perspective:
WWU: Must win game. Must rebound game. The win against NAIA Multnomah on Saturday has long since become irrelevant, now the Vikings are out for Seasider blood. Gotta have it, drink from it, bathe in it. The game is going to be intense and hard fought, but they played MN-Moorhead and almost got a win a few weeks ago -time to crest over the hill and get it against BYUH.
SPU: 50% must win, the other 50% is simply it would be nice to get this win. On the one hand, the Falcons beat them in the tournament by double-digits and so it doesn’t seem like a stretch to be able to do it in Seattle, even having lost just about everything. On the other hand -this is a really, really, really young team in terms of playing time. Yeah, they’re playing seniors, but only one of the seniors did anything in that win eight months ago. This win would be a huge confidence builder, but at the same time the loss wouldn’t be devastating.
CWU: The feel we get from CWU people is that they expect to win this game. From our blog perspective, we say our sincerest “good luck.” During our summer previews, we noted that these games are kind of irrelevant for the Wildcats. If they win, it’s only one game. If they lose, it’s also only one game -although the nice part of being Central is that no one will talk about it signifying anything.
What are we hoping? Obviously that the GNAC goes 3-0 and then BYUH wins out the rest of the year. Not likely. But we are hoping for close fought games with GNAC teams eventually pulling away.
Good luck to the Vikings, Falcons, and Wildcats.
NNU plays Hawaii-Hilo, Notre Dame de Namur, and @ Dominican.
SMU plays Fresno Pacific, Point Loma, Azusa Pacific, and @ Dixie State.
WOU plays @ Point Loma, Fresno Pacific, Azusa Pacific, and @ Dixie State.
SPU plays Academy of Art, @ Hawaii Pacific, @ BYU-Hawaii, @ Hawaii-Hilo, and @ Dixie State.
CWU plays Academy of Art, @ BYU-Hawaii, and @ Hawaii Pacific.
WWU plays Notre Dame de Namur and Hawaii-Hilo.
MSUB plays @ Dixie State and @ Hawaii Pacific.
SFU plays @ Academy of Art, @ Dominican, and Holy Names.
UAF plays @ Notre Dame de Namur and BYU-Hawaii.
UAA plays BYU-Hawaii.
That is a grand total of 28 games. Dixie State is the big highlight on the schedule, but I’m not a person that thinks any team should be overlooked; the Hawaii schools are always a challenge, and you never know what any given team is going to do in a year.
Maybe things finally click, maybe they luck into a transfer that you wonder how they ever lived without –CWU got Mark McLaughlin at the last second, SPU got Jobi Wall a few years ago- maybe a player that had been buried by experience moves into the starting line-up ala Austin Bragg at WWU.
With the Pac-West, as much as I have an instinct to look at some of who we’re playing and go “Meh, that won’t tell us much,” that’s not true. Because we don’t know what those teams are going to be like and even if they’re not up at the top of the conference pecking order, it can give us a chance to figure out who we are.
CWU had a pretty bad moment with that last year playing Hawaii Pacific; it wasn’t a matter of HPU winning, it was a matter of CWU losing because of a raging case of apathy in the final 10 minutes of game play.
You may note that SPU plays more Pac-West teams than anyone else -this is likely a mix of tradition, not having as many tiny school obligations nearby, and the coaching staff feeling the need to know what they’re dealing with on a more tangible level.
Do I wish we as a conference played more within the West Region? Yeah, after all, it is an official listing on the NCAA Rankings: Overall Record and Region Record. It’s also fun to see the schools match up and have November be potentially a March preview. There’s so much growth and development that goes on during conference play and in years like last when it was parity central… it teaches us to embrace the head scratching.
Currently I’d like to see way more games with the CCAA because my history with D1 says I’m all about strength of schedule, but…
Going into last year, we didn’t necessarily know that the CCAA would be the strength of schedule in the West; the GNAC just as often has that role. In the Pac-West, Cal Baptist made a HUGE splash in making their conference more challenging. That was great. And then the West Region on the whole was weak, which was fairly obvious from the beginning but… you never know.
With that… up next is the Pac-West vs. the CCAA.